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I get IM'd a fair amount when on my public IM names, but I seem to get a lot of the same sort of messages. I don't want to make anyone feel bad, but here's what I get a lot of:

- The question "what's up", or otherwise having the burden of striking up a conversation being put on me by people I don't know well (or at all, usually).

- Being told by strangers who I know nothing about that I'm not particularly talkative.

- Being asked for advice by strangers who, again, I know nothing about.

- Being asked interview-like questions.

I put up my public IM information in the hope of getting to talk to new people and possibly make some new friends, but it seems like I mostly get IM'd by those who just want to chat it up with me because I make El Goonish Shive.

I guess it's what I should expect, but it feels really one-sided. It's nothing personal, but the basic scenario is being IM'd by someone who knows way more about you than you know about them and them having the expectation of carrying on a conversation, and them treating you differently because of something you do. It feels more like being at the Keenspot booth at comic-con than having a friendly chat with someone.

It actually makes me tempted to go the anonymous route with a different screen name so that anyone who I'm talking to is doing so for me and not EGS, but I don't see how I can do that on something like DA, and I like sharing stuff that I draw and talking about EGS with people I know so it seems like a lose/lose situation :(

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:iconvaxl:
~Vaxl Mar 7, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Hahaha- I don't know you because of EGS at all... no... *crawls away to the Guilty Corner*
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~c1oud Mar 4, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
So, Dan, I think you're saying that El Goonish Shive is like having a big red spot on your nose. I think I've experience something similar if speak with people who've just discovered I've had a heart-lung transplant. I just want to move on in the conversation, but I don't want to be rude and so it's difficult. Ten years since the op and I'm still to find an effective way past the awkwardness.

I don't see there is a solution. You're a mini celeb, like it or not. That is who you are. For me the conversation does eventually turn. I just have to ride out a few uneasy silences.

Anyway, good luck. Hope you keep persevering.
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:iconanuojat:
~AnuOjat Mar 4, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Better to inform STRAIGHT on that FAQ section is somewhere else... :?
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:icondarkaries:
Aries knows what you mean...Aries can't stand idle IM conversation. Even from people he knows!

If you want something, say you want something, let Aries tell you to go to hell, and move along! Yeesh!
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:iconlu-zero:
I know you because of your comic and I really like it, from your dA account I can see you are really skilled on a craft I don't practice (I'm more involved in photography and digital art).

People shows appreciation in different, sometimes annoying, ways. I just added you since I like your art and probably I'll try to learn a bit from you. From time to time comment if something is striking me, other may think that the best way to show appreciation is pestering/interviewing you.

Cope with your success =)
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:iconstormspike:
Well, Dan, you summed up the problem as well as the solution already, I think.
If you wanna make new friends over the net, it's easier to take the initiative. People know more things about you than you about them? Return the favor. Forums/Webportals are a good way of learning about people if you can read between the lines. So if you see somebody of whom you think might interesting, IM him yourself.
An anonymous IM acc helps with that even more, as you already mentioned. Cause when some people start seeing you as "the creator" instead of just another human being... well, it get's complicated ;)

And don't make the same mistake as me and be discouraged too fast, ya hear? ;) Making new good friends is a rare thing imo and the effort's worth it.

If it helps: ppl who IM you mostly don't know you as well as you think. If they did, they wouldn't bugger you busy-bee for the sake of smalltalk.
I stopped PM'ing you on the keenboards when I learned why you never had the time to write a short awnser back.
But there's the catch. Many ppl are too single-minded as to see your side of things... oh well, I'm starting to rant again.. sorry, I better stop now... ^^

Oh and btw, thanks for the latest +fav! Helps my pencil confidence a lot ^_^
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:iconblackliger:
Ah, don't worry, the completely random bollocks you occasionally get from me is normal for convosations with me. Ask any of my freinds ^_^
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:iconvidthekid:
~vidthekid Mar 2, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've actually felt a little intimidated by your fame on the rare times I've actually had a reason to chat with you in real time. Though I can only remember one such time -- when I had a question about publishing rights to a work of fan fiction that's gone practically nowhere -- I think there may have been one or two more.

Anyway, here on deviantART it feels like we're closer to the same level, especially since my gallery has attained a modest popularity. (Actually, my gallery is practically insignificant compared to yours or some of the superdeviants around here, but popular enough to satisfy my narcissism most of the time.) That, and the fact that journal comments aren't quite real-time removes a lot of the intimidation.

Do you ever get people IMing you from east Asia or the middle east, simply because you're American?
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:iconaramtyth:
a few things here, first off yes a majority of people on IM will want to talk to you about EGS mostly because its the first thing they know about you, so you have to understand most of these people dont know you in real life and thats the first thing they will want to think of to try and relate.
On here you have already proven that you are into more things than just the comic you do, so its really up to them to be asking different questions, if you want to have standards on people who talk to you , then your going to have to find some way to break that fine line between fan and a new person to talk to.
There are plenty of things to talk about in life, you know this as much as any other but talking to someone you only know about is hard to do face to face , let alone through chatting.
Let the first conversation be a get to know you type deal, which hey guess what sounds like an interview sometimes, I for one have been reading your comic for years, yet other than a few deviations and journals you have posted on here, I know nothing about you, if i were to get on an IM with you right now i would have to ask you a lot of random questions just out of taking the step from stranger to acquaintance.
I know your name is Dan Shive, I know you draw one of my favorite online comics, other than that not much. Hi my name is Alex Cutrell, i watch you on DA and read your comics, kinda sounds like stalker creepy fan to me. hahaha
jeez i talk forever
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:iconacemaxim:
You can feel confident I wouldn't talk about just EGS. In fact I like more involved thinking subjects like time paradoxes, physics, space travel and other equally scientific endeavors. Guess I'm a weird girl like that.
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